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ROI with AI

The show where we measure what matters before we automate anything. Real conversations about AI, business, and the human decisions that drive both.

Hosted by TerDawn DeBoeCo-hosted by TeJaye (AI)New episodes 2–3×/week

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Stop Learning AI Tools. Start Learning to Think. | 19 Keys x TerDawn DeBoe
Episode 1
April 27, 2026ft. 19 Keys3.3K

Stop Learning AI Tools. Start Learning to Think. | 19 Keys x TerDawn DeBoe

Most business owners are collecting AI tools. 19 Keys argues that is exactly the wrong starting point and the data backs him up. In this episode of ROI with AI, TerDawn DeBoe sits down with global thought leader, futurist, and cultural architect 19 Keys. He is the founder of High Level Conversations, co-founder of Goldwater High Level Media and Supermind. This is a conversation that goes where most AI discussions refuse to go: the internal operating system that determines whether any tool produces a return. This is not a tools walkthrough. This is a documented, framework-driven conversation about why AI ROI starts with self-awareness, and what happens when it does not. What you will hear in this episode: — Why 19 Keys' formula AI + NI = EI (Artificial Intelligence + Natural Intelligence = Enhanced Intelligence) is the operating principle most business owners skip entirely — How unclear intention is the reason AI workflows produce noise instead of revenue — and the specific process 19 Keys uses to fix that — The production overhead reduction 19 Keys achieved at High Level Media by replacing a full B-roll department with AI-generated video — without sacrificing brand integrity — Why the permissionless economy has shifted the wealth transfer window, and what it costs to miss another cycle — The ManyChat workflow strategy 19 Keys calls the most underutilized conversion tool in business today — How 19 Keys used a dossier of his own gifts, blind spots, and thinking patterns to reverse-engineer the science behind his own success; and why that is now teachable — The agentic AI email-filtering system his team built to qualify and respond to hundreds of booking inquiries without human intervention — What world building actually means as a business strategy and why it produces brand authority that outlasts every algorithm change — The vibe-coded Crown Society app 19 Keys built in days using Figma, designed around solar and lunar cycles, for his Superman Coffee cognitive health brand RESOURCES MENTIONED OR RELEVANT TO THIS EPISODE: Forbes article with the full case study and details discussed by 19Keys https://www.forbes.com/sites/terdawn-deboe/2026/04/27/how-19-keys-outperforms-enterprise-ai-without-their-budget/ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Free Know Thyself First Tool https://instituteofbusinessai.org/know-thyself-first ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ AI Business Intelligence Society Monthly membership for established business owners building measurable AI systems. https://instituteofbusinessai.org/membership ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ CONNECT WITH 19 KEYS High Level Conversations @19KEYS https://19keys.com/ CONNECT WITH TERDAWN DEBOE Forbes Contributing Columnist | Founder, Institute of Business AI TerDawn.com @ TerDawn DeBoe on IG, FB, LinkedIn ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ If your AI investment has not produced a measurable return, this conversation explains why and gives you a framework to change that.

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Welcome to the Institute of Business AI | Meet TeJaye, Your AI Guide
April 27, 202614

Welcome to the Institute of Business AI | Meet TeJaye, Your AI Guide

Meet TeJaye. TerDawn DeBoe's AI assistant and your guide to the Institute of Business AI YouTube channel. While TerDawn is building curriculum, training clients, writing for Forbes, or somewhere in nature with her phone on do not disturb, TeJaye is here every week with AI tips, strategies, and frameworks that actually work inside real businesses. This channel is built for business owners, consultants, speakers, and founders who are done experimenting with AI and ready to measure the return. What you will find here: - AI implementation strategies that produce documented ROI -The STEAD Framework for measuring AI across 5 business levers - AI Tool Tutorials - AI agent builds you can deploy this week - Real client case studies with real numbers TerDawn DeBoe is a Forbes Contributor, AI ROI Strategist, and Founder of the Institute of Business AI. She holds the only CPD-accredited AI ROI certification program in the industry. FREE TRAINING Register for the AI Advantage Masterclass (Free): https://instituteofbusinessai.org/masterclass JOIN THE COMMUNITY AI Business Intelligence Society: https://instituteofbusinessai.org/membership CONNECT Forbes Column: https://forbes.com/sites/terdawndeboe Instagram: https://instagram.com/terdawndeboe LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/terdawndeboe Website: https://instituteofbusinessai.org #AIforBusiness #AIROI #AIStrategy #SmallBusinessAI #AIImplementation #InstituteOfBusinessAI #TeJaye #AIAgent #ClaudeAI #businessgrowth

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Clips & Shorts

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He Turned AI Into His Second Brain. Here's How.

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You Don't Have A Talent Problem. You Have An Execution Problem.

You Don't Have A Talent Problem. You Have An Execution Problem.

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19 Keys Asked AI The Question Most People Are Afraid To Ask.

19 Keys Asked AI The Question Most People Are Afraid To Ask.

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Use AI To Build A CIA File On Yourself?

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About ROI with AI

What is ROI with AI?
ROI with AI is a podcast and YouTube show by the Institute of Business AI. Hosted by TerDawn DeBoe with AI co-host TeJaye, the show explores how business owners can measure and maximize their return on investment from artificial intelligence — focusing on self-knowledge, systems, and strategic implementation rather than just tool collection.
Who hosts ROI with AI?
TerDawn DeBoe, founder of the Institute of Business AI, Forbes Contributor, and creator of the 5 ROI Levers™ framework hosts the show. Most episodes also feature TeJaye, TerDawn's AI co-host, who provides insights and keeps the conversation going between guest episodes.
How often are new episodes released?
New episodes drop 2–3 times per week on the Institute of Business AI YouTube channel. Full-length episodes feature in-depth conversations with guests, while shorter clips highlight key takeaways and insights.
Where can I watch ROI with AI?
ROI with AI is available exclusively on YouTube. Subscribe to the Institute of Business AI channel to get notified of new episodes as they drop.

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